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aaaj
20-02-2007, 03:18 PM
Muchachos buenas, tengo el Xp instalado hace poquito y al iniciar la maquina se queda en la pantalla que dice WINDOWs XP , se cuelga ahi mas de 1 minuto aprox. despues de golpe carga y aparece el escritorio.
Ya dentro del escritorio tarda en cargarme el NOD32 y el Sygate Personal Firewallue son las unicos programas que tengo para que me cargue de inicio.
Es como que el disco lee demasiado al iniciar y al cargar el escritorio, cosa que antes de formatear no lo habia notado.
Otro drama que me hizo al querer iniciar la PC era q se quedaba totalmente colgada en la pantalla que dice WINDOWs XP y tenia que reiniciarla nuevamente.
Algun consejo?
No creo q sea drama de Hard.
escuchos consejos, si hay que explicar algo mas con gusto lo hare.
Gracias

hdmuzzilloOCZ
23-02-2007, 04:15 AM
De que PC hablamos?

Muchas veces una instalacion de win queda mejor que otra... porque solo dios sabe... lo cierto es q cualquiera q trabaje con pcs le ha pasado.

Si tu disco lee demasiado puede tener problemas de hard, quizas joda el smart.

Orego
23-02-2007, 09:27 AM
Tenes un solo HD?, si es asi lo tenes jumpeado en master o en CS?

zabit
23-02-2007, 10:25 PM
Si tu disco lee demasiado puede tener problemas de hard, quizas joda el smart.
Smart conviene simpre deshabilitarlo ? en la bios aparece no¿;)
para que sirve en realidad??--o esta el dope?:D

LeoY2K
23-02-2007, 10:53 PM
Smart conviene simpre deshabilitarlo ? en la bios aparece no¿;)
para que sirve en realidad??--o esta el dope?:D
todo lo contrario, conviene SIEMPRE habilitarlo, el S.M.A.R.T o mas conocido como Self Monitoring Analysis and Reporting Technology, es un sistema que constantemente genera un log, por llamarlo de una manera, en el cual el disco internamente checkea errores de calibracion, errores en la superficie, temperatura, distancias entre cabezal y plato, para informar mediante el bios del propio equipo (por eso hay que habilitarlo en el setup) cuando se esta deteriorando el disco y asi poder tener una chance aun mayor de backupear toda nuestra data en otro HD. esta tecnologia en efecto funciona bastante bien, pero como se imaginaran quedan excluidos algunos factores impredecibles que pueden afectar la vida del hd como ser algun golpe, sobretension, o humedad.

espero haberles aclarado un poco el panorama de esto, es muy comun el desconocimiento de estas cosas.. :)

zabit
23-02-2007, 11:28 PM
no encontre el smart en mi bios..kien se lo habra afanado¿¿¿:doh!: :S

hdmuzzilloOCZ
24-02-2007, 03:06 AM
Excelente explicacion, no podria haberlo dicho mejor!

zabit
25-02-2007, 02:51 AM
Excelente explicacion, no podria haberlo dicho mejor!

sisi.pero yo sigo sin encontralo:cry:

tendra otro nombre??:p

aaaj
25-02-2007, 01:33 PM
Tenes un solo HD?, si es asi lo tenes jumpeado en master o en CS?

Un solo HD SEAGATE ST3120026AS SATA.
Tengo el S.M.A.R.T. Activado.

Captura del Speedfan
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/7387/dibujone2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Analisis de mi Hd.
Si alguien me ayuda a traducirlo mejor:

Your hard disk is a ST3120026AS with firmware 3.01.
The average temperature for this hard disk is 39C (MIN=26C MAX=52C) and yours is 34C.
Your hard disk's S.M.A.R.T. attributes are now being analyzed and a full report about the reliability, health and status of your hard disk is generated:
Your hard disk is not below any attribute threshold. This is good.

Warning: Seek Error Rate reached, in the past, its threshold. Worst value is 30 and threshold is 30. Warning: Spin Retry Count reached, in the past, its threshold. Worst value is 45 and threshold is 97. This is an unusual situation because it looks like your hard disk, in the past, failed the S.M.A.R.T. status check, but now it appears not to be failing. You should double check it. A backup of your data is strongly suggested.
Your hard disk is now being compared to real data used to define normal values for your specific hard disk model. This way, the analysis can automatically use proper operating ranges. The images give you an idea of how each attribute is within such range. Current and raw values are shown for easier reference for experienced users. There are 1286 hard disk models in the current archive.

Otra parte del analisis del HD que me dio el Speed Fan
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/4649/dibujo2gb8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

NOTE: not all warnings are reflected on fitness and performance overall values as relevancy is based upon the settings from the hard disk manufacturer who is the best entity deputed to define such relationships.
NOTE : your hard disk has 611 reallocated sectors (this value is very large and your hard disk should be replaced). Hard disks do have spare sectors (usually from 256 up to 1024) used to replace bad ones. This remapping operation is transparent to the end user. Anyway, this can lead to degradated performances (because remapped sectors are in different places of the disk than the original ones and the head needs additional moving). If reallocated sectors grow over time, you might encounter some serious troubles. A backup of the most important data is suggested anyway.

NOTE : your hard disk has 36 pending sectors. Those are sectors that couldn't be properly read and that the hard disk logic is waiting for a write operation to try to remap to a spare sector (if available). According to the Reallocated Sector Count attribute, your hard disk seems to have available spare sectors. A simple disk surface scan won't be enough to force the remap operation. You need a read/write surface scan to remap the sector. The best option should be a tool that knows about what should be read from that sector so that it has some option to apply the best fix to the missing data.

NOTE : your hard disk has 36 offline uncorrectable sectors. Those are sectors that an offline scanning found as unreadable. Offline scanning is a process that can be automatically started by the hard disk logic when a long enough idle period is detected or that can be forced by some tool. Those unreadable sectors are identified and the hard disk logic is waiting for a write command that will overwrite them to try to remap them to spare sectors (if available). According to the Reallocated Sector Count attribute, your hard disk seems to have available spare sectors. A simple disk surface scan won't be enough to force the remap operation. You need a read/write surface scan to remap the sector. The best option should be a tool that knows about what should be read from that sector so that it has some option to apply the best fix to the missing data.


The overall fitness for this drive is 0%.
The overall performance for this drive is 9%.